CEDAW 28th Session: Praise for Canada but also concern over number of women in poverty



UNITED NATIONS
Press Release
23 January 2003

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ANTI-DISCRIMINATION COMMITTEE PRAISES CANADA FOR ADVANCING WOMEN'S RIGHTS, 
BUT EXPRESSES CONCERN OVER NUMBER OF WOMEN IN POVERTY
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Committee on Elimination of
Discrimination against Women

Considers Country's Fifth Periodic Report on Convention Compliance


While praising Canada for significant strides it has made in advancing the 
rights of women, members of the Committee on the Elimination of 
Discrimination against Women expressed concern today over the high number 
of women living in poverty in the country, with limited job training, 
little education and poor health.

The 23-member body, whose experts serve in their personal capacity, was 
reviewing in two meetings the country's fifth periodic report on compliance 
with the Convention on the Elimination of all Forms of Discrimination 
against Women.

Introducing the report, Florence Ievers, Coordinator of Status of Women 
Canada, highlighted steps her country had taken to further women's rights. 
In 2000, the Government had adopted a new Agenda for Gender Equality, which 
aimed to engender current and new policy and programme initiatives, 
accelerate the implementation of gender-based analysis, enhance voluntary 
sector capacity, engage Canadians in the policy process, and meet Canada's 
international commitments.

The country had also adopted a new Immigration and Refugee Protection Act, 
she said, which included stiffer penalties for human smuggling and 
trafficking in persons. Parental benefits under Employment Insurance had 
been increased from
10 weeks to 35 weeks, and the Government had introduced a Child Tax Benefit 
and National Child Benefit system. Also, amendments to the criminal code 
and related legislation now gave women who were victims of sexual or 
violent crime more rights and protection in the legal system.

Addressing concerns about impoverished women, she noted that such factors 
as age, race, ethnicity, immigrant status and aboriginal heritage had 
significant effects on women's economic status. Poverty among some groups 
of women in Canada was far too high, she agreed, although poverty in 
general had declined. Poverty rates for single-parent mothers had dropped 
11 percentage points, from 58.7 per cent to 47.6 per cent, between 1996 and 
2000.

Several Committee experts pointed to budgetary adjustments in Canada in 
1995, which had led to lower financial transfers between the federal and 
provincial Governments. That situation had worsened the plight of 
marginalized women and cut social services. Noting that neo-liberal 
economic policies often

put women in precarious economic conditions, the expert from Korea pointed 
out that one of the priority areas of Canada's Agenda for Gender Equality 
was to improve women's economic autonomy.

Ms. Ievers replied that Canada had been facing extreme deficit and debt 
problems in 1995, which the Government believed would hinder economic 
growth, poverty reduction and other vital programmes. Consequent budget 
cuts had altered financial transfers between federal and provincial 
Governments, and several social programmes had been cut. The Federal Plan 
for Gender Equality was only just coming into being at the time those 
decisions were being made.

The economy had improved since then, and strategic investments had been 
made to strengthen the country's sagging social programmes, she continued. 
The Government was aware of the trap it had previously fallen into, and was 
now using a building-blocks approach to boost services, starting with the 
most vulnerable groups and proceeding up the chain. She added that economic 
growth had improved in the country and possibilities for full-time jobs for 
women had dramatically increased.

Experts also focused on the systematic discrimination suffered by 
aboriginal women in Canada. The expert from Cuba stressed that the country 
must review measures to ensure aboriginal women could exercise their 
rights, and asked why aboriginal women made up such a high proportion of 
the prison population. Other experts were concerned about the plight of 
trafficked women and the victims of domestic violence, and asked what 
support systems the country had in place to help those individuals 
negotiate the legal system.

Gillian Glackell, Legal Counsel for the Family, Children and Youth Section 
at the Department of Justice, acknowledging the high number of aboriginal 
women in prisons, stated that a recent report had attributed the high rate 
to alcohol, domestic abuse and other problems. The Government was currently 
taking measures to reduce the number of aboriginal women in prisons to a 
figure no higher than the national average. In 1996, the criminal code had 
been amended to permit the courts alternatives to incarceration. From 1999 
to 2001, sentences served in the community had increased from 28.5 to 33.3 
per cent.

As for trafficking in women and children, the new Immigration and Refugee 
Protection Act allowed them to apply for humanitarian assistance and access 
victims' as well as compensation services. The Canadian International 
Development agency (CIDA) had funded several programmes to address the root 
causes of trafficking.

Regarding abuse victims, she said the Government had significantly 
contributed to shelters for those women in the past few years. In 
particular, it had provided $1.9 million per year to the Family Violence 
Initiative, in addition to ongoing funding, and 50 new shelters had been 
established through the Shelter Enhancement Programme.

The Committee will meet again at 10 a.m. Friday, 24 January, to hear 
replies to questions posed by experts to Albania on 16 January concerning 
its combined initial and second periodic reports.


Background

The Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination against Women met today 
to consider the fifth periodic report of Canada (document CEDAW/C/CAN/5).

The report, covering the period from March 1994 to March 1998, outlines The 
Federal Plan for Gender Equality, presented in 1995 at the Fourth World 
Conference on Women in Beijing. Key elements of the plan include improving 
women's economic autonomy, as well as their physical and psychological 
well-being; reducing violence against women and children; incorporating a 
women's perspective in governance; and advancing gender equality for 
federal employees.

In striving to realize the Federal Plan, the country has, among other 
measures: added sexual orientation as a prohibited ground for 
discrimination under the Canadian Human Rights Act; continued to fund the 
Family Violence Initiative in an effort to reduce family violence; and 
carried out a $4.3 million update of 3,000 shelters for abused women. It 
has also improved living conditions for federally sentenced women, legally 
banned female genital mutilation, introduced a new National Child Benefit, 
and reformed the child-support system.

Reviewing the status of women in the country, the report notes a continued 
gender division of labour. Although the number of working women has more 
than doubled since the 1950s to reach 46 per cent of the labour force, men 
are still more likely to form part of the paid labour force, and still 
spend more total time working for pay.

Moreover, women still tend to work in jobs resembling unpaid domestic and 
caring work that they have historically done in the home, the report 
states. In the late 1990s, almost 68 per cent of employed women worked in 
teaching, nursing, clerical, sales and service jobs. Women are also more 
likely than men to have part-time work, which is typically lower paying 
with fewer benefits.

Some kinds of unpaid work appear to be more equally shared than others, the 
report observes. For example, women perform more than 70 per cent of such 
tasks as cooking, cleaning, and child care, while men generally do repairs 
and maintenance. Tasks more equally shared between men and women include 
household management and shopping, transportation and travel.

With the ongoing gender division of labour, women still limit their paid 
work to care for dependents and other family members. They are responsible 
for more than 70 per cent of the time spent helping and caring for children 
and other family members. The gender imbalance in households where both 
spouses have full-time work is substantial, the report notes.

Although women do more total work than men, their incomes are lower, the 
report says. Canadian women received 38 per cent less gross income than men 
as of 1997, although that figure has dropped from 51 per cent in 1986. The 
report attributes lower female incomes mainly to part-time employment, 
family responsibilities, the number of female single parents or seniors 
with few or no earnings, and lower educational levels.

More women than men live in poverty, including almost 49 per cent of 
elderly women living alone and 56 per cent of female single parents, which 
directly affects the well-being of children. In 1995, some 37 per cent of 
visible minority women and 43 per cent of aboriginal women living outside a 
reserve, or in the territories, lived on a low-income. In 1997, the same 
was true of 56 per cent of female single parents.

The report stresses that education is key to women's equality, since it can 
lead to employment and economic independence. The new knowledge-based 
economy and society in Canada has made women's access to education and 
training even more vital, as technical and scientific fields become key 
elements for growth. However, women receive less employer-sponsored 
training than men, although their participation rates are similar to men.

In 1996, some 12 per cent of women and 14 per cent of men aged 15 and over 
were university graduates, up from 3 per cent of women and 7 per cent of 
men in 1971. From 1997 to 1998, women made up about 29 per cent of 
university students in mathematics and sciences and 22 per cent in 
engineering and applied sciences -– key growth areas in the knowledge-based 
economy and society.

Women are still under-represented in doctoral programmes and on college and 
university faculties, according to the report. Moreover, although they have 
advanced in number and influence in political, economic and social 
decision-making over the past decade, they are still outweighed by men in 
key positions. After the federal elections in 1997, women made up 20 per 
cent of the members of the House of Commons, and 18.4 per cent of 
provincial legislatures.

Turning to violence against women, the report cites the Statistics Canada 
1993 Violence against Women Survey, which reveals that 51 per cent of 
Canadian women suffered from physical or sexual violence after the age of 
16. Some 29 per cent of women who had been married or lived in common-law 
situations had been physically or sexually assaulted by their partner 
during the relationship.

In terms of reporting, the report notes that sexual and non-sexual assaults 
against women reported to police have increased by 152 per cent, and 
physical assaults by 62 per cent since 1983, when criminal law reforms were 
passed.

Whether violence against women has decreased or increased in Canada remains 
unclear, the report states. Reports from 61 police agencies across the 
country indicate that the number of reported cases of spousal assault 
dropped by 7 per cent between 1993 and 1996, but many cases still go 
unreported. Only 26 per cent of those women who reported being victims of 
spousal violence in the Violence against Women Survey had reported an 
incident of violence to the police.


Introduction of Report

FLORENCE IEVERS, head of Canadian delegation and coordinator for Status of 
Women Canada, introduced the report. She noted that women over the past 
century had become increasingly involved in social and economic aspects of 
life, most notably becoming a major and integral part of the paid labour 
force. They had made tremendous strides in education, and were making 
inroads into male-dominated fields. The majority of employed women 
continued to be in predominately female occupations, but that was slowly 
declining. Women were a fast-growing force among self-employed workers and 
entrepreneurs in Canada. Their overall economic situation continued to 
steadily improve, and their earnings as a percentage of men's had 
increased. Women's after-tax incomes, for example, had increased from 52 
per cent of men's in 1986 to 63 per cent in 1997.

Factors such as age, race, ethnicity, immigrant status and aboriginal 
heritage also had significant effects on women's economic status, she 
continued. aboriginal women were concentrated disproportionately in 
lower-skill and lower-paying occupation, and also had lower rates of 
employment in the wage economy than aboriginal men or non-aboriginal women. 
Poverty among some groups of women in Canada was far too high, but poverty, 
in general, had continuously declined. Poverty rates for lone-parent 
mothers had dropped 11 percentage points from 58.7 per cent to 47.6 per 
cent between 1996 and 2000.

Since 1995, Canada had endorsed a dual approach to gender equality that 
combined both the integration of a gender perspective in government 
processes and the development of policies and programmes that were gender 
specific, she said. Through gender-based analysis, gender mainstreaming 
views women in relation to men in society through all life stages and 
experiences. In 2000, the Government adopted a new Agenda for Gender 
Equality. The Agenda was a multi-year strategy, with new funding spread 
over a five-year period. It was designed to engender current and new policy 
and programme initiatives, accelerate the implementation of gender-based 
analysis, enhance voluntary sector capacity, engage Canadians in the policy 
process, and meet Canada's international commitments.

She went on to highlight progress that had been made to advance women over 
the past few years. The Government's new Immigration and Refugee Protection 
Act required that gender impacts be reported on annually in the federal 
immigration department's report to Parliament. The Act included new 
offences for human smuggling and trafficking in persons, carrying a maximum 
penalty of life imprisonment, and a fine of up to $1 million, or both. The 
legislation allowed a court to consider aggravating factors, such as 
humiliating or degrading treatment, including sexual exploitation, when 
determining an appropriate penalty for the crime.

As regards the aboriginal population, the Government had adopted an action 
plan in 1998 called Gathering Strength, a strategy to improve the quality 
of life of aboriginal people and promote self-sufficiency, with funding of 
$965 million over five years. In a Statement of Reconciliation in 1998, the 
Government acknowledged the role it had played in suppressing aboriginal 
languages and cultures, and its role in developing and running native 
residential schools, which separated many children from their families and 
communities.

Turning to unpaid work, she noted that parental benefits under Employment 
Insurance had been increased from 10 weeks to 35 weeks in December 2000, 
which had doubled the combined maternity/parental benefit period to one 
full year. The number of Canadians accessing parental benefits had 
increased by 24.3 per cent in 2001. The Government had also introduced a 
Child Tax Benefit and National Child Benefit system, which included a 
supplement for low-income families. Since 1997, a package of child-support 
reforms had also been in effect to ensure fairer support for children in 
custodial households, most often headed by women following separation and 
divorce.

Regarding women's health, she said the 1997 guidelines on the inclusion of 
women in clinical trials were an important step forward, considering 
women's greater reporting of chronic health conditions and use of 
medication than men. The guidelines aimed to ensure that drug manufacturers 
seeking market approval for their products based their application on 
research representing the full range of patients likely to receive the 
drug, and that women were enrolled in clinical trials at all stages of drug 
development. Such procedures helped define the risks and benefits 
associated with drug therapy to women, including women with child- bearing 
potential and post-menopausal women.

As for violence against women, the 2002 document "Assessing Violence 
against Women: A Statistical Profile" provided reasons to believe that 
Canada's efforts to address that problem may have had some effect. In 1993, 
some 12 per cent of women indicated they had been assaulted by a marital or 
common-law partner in the preceding five years, whereas in 1999 the figure 
had dropped to 8 per cent. In addition, criminal law reforms had been 
introduced to provide increased protection for victims of sexual assault 
and other violent offences. The Criminal Code and related legislation had 
been amended to ease the testimony of young victims of sexual or violent 
crime and to expand the role of victim impact statements. Domestic violence 
courts had been created in many jurisdictions, aimed at improving the 
justice system's response to that problem.


Comments and Questions by Experts

Committee Chairperson AYSE FERIDE ACAR, expert from Turkey, thanked the 
delegation for its presentation. The large delegation was an indication of 
the Government's commitment to the Convention. She congratulated Canada for 
having ratified the Optional Protocol. Canada had been a leading force 
worldwide for promoting gender equality. The significant attention accorded 
to the presentation was a further demonstration of Canada's commitment to 
maintaining its leading role in promoting the rights of women. Canada was a 
multi-ethnic, multi-religious and multilingual society, and its experience 
provided a microcosm of the problems and opportunities in the globalization 
era.

ROSARIO MANALO, expert from the Philippines, addressed the issue of the 
structural adjustment that took place in Canada in 1995. The budget 
implementation act had exacerbated the situation of marginalized women in 
Canada and had affected the distribution of social services. While some 
measures might have been planned to mitigate the negative impact of the 
budget implementation act on women, to what extent had the Government 
responded positively to improving mechanisms to advance women? On 
immigration issues, most of Canada's immigrants were women, in particular 
domestic helpers. What had been done to address the fact that domestic 
helpers did not receive permanent status for three years and that they were 
not provided with adequate social security? she asked.

HANNA BEATE SCHOPP-SCHILLING, expert from Germany, said that despite 
Canada's progress, there were still some unresolved issues. What were the 
obstacles to the Committee's previous recommendation to integrate the 
reports of federal, provincial and territorial levels? While the report 
covered the period 1994 to 1998, it had only been submitted in 2002. Why 
the delay? There seemed to be a tendency to report only on positive 
achievements. It was difficult to have a consistent picture of 
implementation in all the provinces and territories. In some parts of the 
federal report, except for Quebec, initiatives were listed without an 
analysis of their results.

On gender-based impact analysis, while she applauded the fact that it was 
now being done, she wondered if it had become mandatory. Regarding the 
First Nations Government Act, which was currently under discussion, what 
had been the obstacles to discrimination against aboriginal women in the Act?

HEISOO SHIN, expert from the Republic of Korea, said Canada's delegation 
was the largest to have ever attended a Committee meeting. She had admired 
Canada's initiatives since the 1990s, especially regarding human rights. 
She thanked Canada for its development assistance to many countries around 
the world. She also appreciated its gender-analysis efforts, both in terms 
of statistics and budgeting. Canada was known as one of the originators of 
gender equality.

Domestically, however, there were some serious concerns, she continued. The 
report indicated that, because of a government deficit, support for social 
services had been cut. Neo-liberal economic policies often put women in 
precarious economic conditions. The Agenda for Gender Equality included 
three priority areas, including improving women's economic autonomy. What 
had been the result of gender analysis in that regard? On violence against 
women, she heard reports from the grass-roots level that there had been a 
serious cutback in funding for shelters, drastically affecting the 
assistance given to abused women. Why had there been negative results from 
the new Agenda.

HUGUETTE BOKPE GNACADJA, expert from Benin, said that it seemed that the 
implementation of the Convention was left to the discretion of the 
provincial authorities. Which areas fell within the purview of the Federal 
Government, and which did not? There was no uniform implementation pattern. 
An exchange of information between the Federal Government and the provinces 
was not enough to ensure implementation of the Convention. The machinery 
and legislative approaches were poorly adapted to Canada's needs. Outcomes 
and results should be on an equal par with political will. Was cultural and 
ethnic diversity being considered in Canada's policies? How did the 
Government feel it could achieve harmonious implementation of the 
Convention, given the fact that each province was left to its own devices 
in interpreting the Convention?

AIDA GONZALEZ MARTINEZ, expert from Mexico, said the fifth report provided 
a wealth of data and information. She appreciated Canada's assistance to 
other countries to improve the situation of women. She welcomed the 
decision to criminalize the use of the Internet for the exploitation of 
children. Since 1997, the Committee had expressed its concern at the 
increase in poverty and its effect on women. The exacerbation of poverty 
appeared to be triggered by the weakening of social assistance programmes. 
The level of poverty continued to be high, with a disproportionate impact 
on women. Canada was one of the wealthiest countries in the world, ranking 
second in terms of development. How, then, could there be such levels of 
poverty and lack of shelter for women? That was both distressing and strange.

CHRISTINE KAPALATA, expert from the United Republic of Tanzania, commented 
on the marginal position that aboriginal women occupied in Canada, and said 
she had difficulty accepting that 54 per cent of those women had not 
completed secondary education. She commended the Canadian Government for 
allowing asylum seekers into the country on the basis of gender-based 
persecution, and asked how many had been admitted for that reason. What 
facilities and programmes were available to women admitted on the basis of 
gender-based persecution, and what was the Government doing to encourage 
that approach in other countries?

REGINA TAVARES DA SILVA, expert from Portugal, expressed concern that many 
women in Canada, a highly developed country, shared many of the 
disadvantages of poorer societies. She also noted that women made up almost 
half of work force, but still had lower-paying jobs and earned only 63 per 
cent of the salaries of men. She commended the country for increasing 
parental benefits, and its analysis of unpaid and paid work. As regarded 
violence against women, she asked whether recent governmental cuts had 
affected shelters and other forms of support for abused women. Also, why 
were there such a high percentage of Canadian women in prison?

YOLANDA FERRER GOMEZ, expert from Cuba, asked about systematic 
discrimination suffered by aboriginal Canadian women in all phases of life. 
The country needed to analyse the kind of discrimination suffered by those 
women and measures that had been taken to ensure that they could exercise 
their rights in all arenas. Also, what had been done to combat hate and 
prejudiced-based crimes? Why did aboriginal women reflect such a high 
percentage of the prison population?

SALMA KHAN, expert from Bangladesh, expressed disappointment that all 
people in Canada, including the immigrant population, did not enjoy the 
country's high quality of life. She questioned whether the provisions of 
the Indian Act reflected the Canadian Charter of Rights, and whether 
welfare packages for immigrant and aboriginal women contained adequate 
housing and food needs. She commented that the country's new Immigration 
and Refugee Protection Act was biased, in that mainly highly skilled people 
were allowed to immigrate to Canada. She also queried whether findings 
related to violence against immigrant women had revealed any similarities 
with those of indigenous women. Finally, she asked what percentage of 
elderly women were living below the poverty level, and what disability and 
health-care services were available for them.

SJAMSIAH ACHMAD, expert from Indonesia, appreciated the inclusion of social 
conditions in the Agenda for Gender Equality. She admired the monitoring 
system for developing cooperation among the various government 
institutions. That monitoring system, with gender-awareness indicators, 
would provide an accurate picture of the actual condition of women. She 
stressed the importance of integrated social support services for women, 
including for poverty and the ageing population.

DUBRAVKA SIMONOVIC, expert from Croatia, congratulated Canada for its 
leadership role at the international level, which was moving the women's 
agenda forward. Leadership also brought with it great responsibility, 
nationally and internationally. Had the report been prepared in cooperation 
with non-governmental organizations and had the Government formally adopted 
it? What had been the main obstacle to making the historic Indian Act 
compatible with the Convention? She hoped the ratification of the Optional 
Protocol would provide incentive to the Government to deal with issues 
regarding aboriginal women.

AKUA KUENYEHIA, expert from Ghana, was interested in the Immigration Act as 
it related to trafficking in women. What happened to victims of 
trafficking, who were mostly women? Did they have a support system? Were 
they allowed to stay in Canada? Did the various anti-trafficking strategies 
address the root causes of trafficking in women and girls?

GORAN MELANDER, expert from Sweden, also asked questions about trafficking 
in women and Canada's participation in a "safe third country" agreement. 
"Safe" was the important word. Was it safe to return to a country where a 
person might be detained? When did one become a Canadian? One in five women 
were immigrants and some had been in Canada for generations. It was odd to 
live in the country for generations and still be considered an immigrant. 
Also, who was an aboriginal? While universal agreement in defining 
aboriginal people had not been achieved, at the domestic level there was a 
subjective element in defining who was an aboriginal. Was it possible for a 
woman to deny being an aboriginal and be considered an ordinary Canadian?

PRAMILA PATTEN, expert from Mauritius, commended the Government for its 
significant progress in the advancement in the status of women. There were 
disturbing and frightening gaps, however. Poor women were getting poorer. 
They had limited job training, little education and poor health. The 
measures used to address their situation seemed to be piecemeal.

Regarding British Columbia, she asked for an explanation of the rationale 
behind eliminating the Human Rights Commission and the Ministry of Women's 
Equality. Who would fill the vacuum left by the removal of the Commission? 
While the creation of domestic violence courts was commendable, a number 
had been closed in British Columbia. On budget allocations for legal aid, 
she wondered if it was true that British Columbia had cut its funding by 
some 38.8 per cent.

CORNELIS FLINTERMAN, expert from the Netherlands, found it peculiar that 
the Committee was discussing a report that covered the period 1994 to 1998 
without considering developments since 1998. Ratification of the Optional 
Protocol had made even more important a statewide system to monitor 
compliance the Convention. Was the Government setting up such a system? A 
dualistic system did not allow the judiciary to directly apply the 
provisions of the Convention. He asked if the Federal Government had taken 
measures to familiarize the members of the judiciary with the fact that all 
government acts should be applied in light of Canada's obligations under 
its international treaty obligations.

KRISZTINA MORVAI, expert from Hungary, commented that every second woman 
living alone lived in poverty in Canada, according to the report, yet the 
country was a highly successful one. She asked whether strong political 
will existed to address the problem, and whether it was a central part of 
the political agenda. She also noted a trend in the country's health-care 
system that had increased women's burden as caregivers in the home. That 
trend suggested something akin to a natural disaster, rather than a series 
of decisions by the Government, which could be reconsidered. Did the 
Government envisage a domestic poverty-reduction programme for women, and 
was there political will to start serious dialogue with the 
non-governmental organization community in implementing such a plan? How 
did the Government plan to fund women's non-governmental organizations and 
cooperate with them in the future?

Ms. ACAR, expert form Turkey and Committee Chairperson, noted that poverty 
for single parents had dropped in Canada, and asked about poverty for 
women, in general. Was the Government emphasizing a policy that was too 
focused on motherhood and children in poverty reduction? What about other 
single women and elderly women?


Country Response

Ms. IEVERS first responded to questions on economic restructuring between 
the Federal Government and those of the provinces and territories. In 1995, 
Canada was facing extreme deficit and debt problems, and the governments at 
both levels believed that the country would face much more hardship unless 
stringent measures were taken. Eventually, all governments realized that 
such high deficits were hindering economic growth, poverty reduction and 
other vital programmes. Consequent budget cuts had altered financial 
transfers between federal and provincial governments, and several 
programmes had been drastically cut. Now the Governments had turned those 
cuts around in an attempt to improve the poverty situation and had seen 
tangible results. If the country had had proper gender-based analysis of 
the original decisions to cut programmes, some of them would have been 
different. The federal plan for gender equality was only just coming into 
being at the time those decisions were being made.

The economy had improved since then, she continued, and more strategic 
investments had been made to strengthen the country's social programmes in 
areas that needed them the most. The governments were mindful of the trap 
they had previously fallen into, which was detrimental to vulnerable groups 
in society. They were now using a building-blocks approach that started 
with the most vulnerable and proceeded to others up the chain. The burden 
women faced in taking on most of the care-giving responsibilities hindered 
them from becoming full economic members of society. However, the 
building-blocks approach should improve the situation of the most 
vulnerable. Also, economic growth had increased in the country and 
possibilities for full-time jobs for women had dramatically increased.

The Agenda for Gender Equality had committed itself to gender-based 
analysis, she said, although it could be difficult to see the results. 
Governments had committed to the plan in 1995, but their interest was 
waning and their performance had been disappointing. Gender-based analysis 
was not mandatory, because that approach would likely have resulted in 
failure. In the end, the Federal Government had decided to develop the 
ability and capacity of federal machinery to do gender-based analysis 
through training and developing the appropriate tools.

CALIE MCPHEE, Manager, Human Rights, Canadian Heritage, addressed questions 
on the preparation of the report. Regarding delays in its submission, 
because Canada took its reporting obligations seriously, a great deal of 
effort went into the preparation of the report. The number of reports due 
under various treaties had restricted their ability to produce reports in 
expedient fashion. Over the past two years, through efforts of the federal, 
provincial and territorial governments, the backlog in reports would be 
eliminated.

Regarding the federal approval of the report, each department contributing 
to the report had to approve the federal section, she said. The provinces 
had approval procedures, as well. Canada did not submit reports to the 
United Nations until it had received approval from all the jurisdictions. 
Canada had not consulted with non-governmental organizations specifically 
in the preparation of the report, but consultation with those organizations 
occurred regularly through other forums.

On the report's structure, she understood the Committee's concerns. A 
committee made up of the members of the various jurisdictions had prepared 
the report, using guidelines for their respective sections. Any change to 
Canada's reporting structure required the agreement of all the 
jurisdictions, and improvement in reporting procedures was under discussion.

ELIZABETH EID, Assistant Director, Department of Justice, said Canada's 
federal structure was complex. Canada followed a commonwealth tradition of 
a dualist system. Canada was a vast country. It was multiracial, 
multicultural and officially bilingual. Given the country's diversity, it 
had been decided that federalism was the appropriate structure. That 
decision dated back to 1867. On the constitutional division of powers, 
certain matters fell under exclusive federal jurisdiction; others under 
exclusive provincial jurisdiction, while others were shared. Exclusive 
federal jurisdiction included defence, citizenship and aboriginal peoples. 
Provinces had exclusive jurisdiction in terms of local work, property, 
civil rights and education.

Human rights were a matter of shared jurisdiction, she said. Federal and 
provincial governments could enact human rights legislation. All 
governments had done so and there was a coherent framework across the 
country. The Canadian Charter, which was part of the Constitution, applied 
to the federal, provincial, territorial and municipal governments. All were 
subject to the Charter, which contained its equality guarantee. The Charter 
did play an important unifying role regarding equality and jurisprudence. 
The Supreme Court was the last court of appeal and had binding jurisdiction.

International human rights treaties applied to all jurisdictions -- 
federal, provincial and territorial. When Canada ratified a treaty, lengthy 
consultations occurred at the different levels to ensure that domestic 
legislation was consistent. Provinces agreed to be bound prior to 
ratification. Regarding human rights legislation, there were differences in 
protection depending on jurisdiction. Basically, courts had said that human 
rights legislation was to be applied in a purposeful manner. Courts must 
ascribe a common meaning to similar provisions.

Canada's dualist system meant the Convention did not have direct force in 
the courts, she added. The courts had stated, however, that international 
human rights treaties must be taken into account when interpreting the 
Charter, as well as human rights legislation. There had been considerable 
interest in the judiciary in the citing of international human rights 
instruments.

Regarding the review of the Canadian Human Rights Act and the inclusion of 
"social condition", she said the review of the Act was comprehensive and 
had been the first major review in the last 20 years. The review panel had 
come forward with 165 recommendations on a wide range of issues, and the 
Government was moving on the recommendations. Regarding social conditions, 
it was under serious consideration by the Government. Social condition 
appeared in the human rights legislation of several jurisdictions.

Regarding the terms equality and equity, she said that the concept of 
equality, which was enshrined in the Constitution, had been the main 
concept. While equity did denote fairness, it had been a term coined 
concerning pay equity. It did not denote farness in treatment, but measures 
to ensure substantive equality for women. Regarding hate crimes, there were 
a number of criminal code provisions, including enhanced sentencing. Hate 
speech on the Internet was prohibited. Gender-based analysis was not 
mandatory with respect to the Charter, but there was a statutory obligation 
to ensure that all legislation was reviewed for consistency with the Charter.

GILLIAN GLACKELL, Legal Counsel for the Family, Children and Youth Section 
at the Department of Justice, agreed that the high percentage of aboriginal 
women in Canadian prisons was a problem, although numbers had recently 
declined. A report from the aboriginal communities had identified alcohol, 
domestic abuse and other problems as major factors. The Government was 
currently taking measures to reduce the number of aboriginal women in 
prisons to a figure no higher than the national average. In 1996, the 
Criminal Code was amended to permit the courts alternative measures to 
incarceration. Several programmes were available for aboriginal offenders, 
including nine healing lodges and ethno-cultural liaison officers to assist 
with cultural issues and the integration of former into the community. From 
1999 to 2001, sentences served in the community had increased from 28.5 to 
33.3 per cent.

As for trafficking in women and children, the new Immigration and Refugee 
Protection Act allowed women to apply for humanitarian assistance on 
compassionate grounds and gave them access to victims' services across the 
country, as well as victim's compensation services. In addition, the 
Canadian International Development agency (CIDA) funded several programmes 
to address the root causes of trafficking. The Government had also 
significantly contributed to shelters in the past few years. In particular, 
it had provided $1.9 million per year to the Family Violence Initiative, in 
addition to ongoing funding, and 50 new shelters had been established 
through the Shelter Enhancement Programme. Regarding figures on violence 
against women, recent statistics had indicated that 6 per cent of 
immigrants had experienced violence, compared to 8 per cent of the general 
population. The survey used, however, was limited, because it was only 
conducted in English and French, and some refugee women could not respond.

SHEILA REGEHR, Economic Policy Coordinator, Policy and External Relations 
Directorate, addressing a question on minority groups, said many recent 
immigrants were members of a visible minority, but others had been in the 
country for many years. She added that the term "visible minority" needed 
to be rethought, since, in at least one city, Toronto, the largest visible 
minority had now become the majority. She added that there had been efforts 
recently to develop specific frameworks to look at the effects of race or 
ethnic status on women. Databases were constantly being improved and new 
information released, although the five-year census was still the most 
comprehensive source of information.

Turning to questions about women's lower after-tax income, she said that a 
wide range of measures was used as analytical tools, and figures varied. 
What mattered most were the trends, and statistics related to poverty had 
been improving. She added that figures relating to after-tax income 
included all women, employed or not, as well as paid and unpaid work, which 
skewed the figure to a lower level. The after-tax figure was actually 
higher than the before-tax rate, which showed that progressive effects in 
the tax system were having a positive gender effect. More common measures, 
such as wage gap measures, revealed more about the labour force. On an 
hourly basis, for example, the gap narrowed, with women earning 80 per cent 
of men's wages. Concerning unpaid work, she said that the combination of 
figures allowed a look at the balance between paid and unpaid work, which 
was improving. Women were doing more paid work and the overall workload was 
declining.

Regarding poverty statistics, there was no single measure of poverty in the 
country, she said. Most statistics focused on low-income cut-offs, or 
before and after tax measures, although analysts were becoming more 
sophisticated in understanding poverty. Concerning the focus on mothers, 
the combination of information available largely related to single mothers. 
Analysts had acknowledged and were paying attention to the fact that most 
families needed two incomes to survive. With regard to the senior 
population, unattached poverty-stricken women in that age group were often 
feeling the effects of having had no previous incomes or pension plans, due 
to child-rearing.

MARY QUINN, Women's Health Bureau, Health Canada, said the national child 
benefit was a major initiative with a First Nation component. It was a 
joint federal, provincial and territorial initiative with the federal side 
providing funding and the others services. As a result of the benefit, 1999 
statistics indicated an average increase in income for some 1.2 million 
families with 2.1 children. The number of low-income families with children 
had decreased by about 16,500 families. Given the fact that the benefit had 
increased, she expected to see greater results. In addition to early 
results, the benefit was being evaluated both in terms of the objectives of 
reducing poverty and increasing labour force attachment.

There was also the Early Childhood Development Agreement, which had been 
signed by the federal, provincial and territorial ministers in 2002. 
Through the Agreement, provincial and territorial authorities could invest 
funds in four areas of early childhood services. The Government was 
committed to understanding what worked best and how to address gaps. In 
terms of senior women, the Government had made progress in terms of 
reducing poverty among seniors in the past decades. That was not to say 
that the situation had been solved. The commitment to results and further 
progress given the gaps that persisted was a primary focus of the Government.

On aboriginal issues, SANDRA GINNISH, Director-General, Treaties, Research, 
International and Gender Equality, Indian and Northern Affairs, said the 
Constitution defined aboriginals as Indian, Inuit and Metis. The Indian 
group included two subdivisions: Indians, who met the legal definition; and 
non-status Indians, who had descended from individuals who met the legal 
definition. The identity of Inuit people was based on self-identification 
and a relationship to a specific community. They were in the northern part 
of the country and the North-west Territories. The Metis were of mixed 
aboriginal and non-aboriginal descent. While there were a limited number of 
Metis communities, a large number of Metis were urban dwellers.

The First Nations Governance Act had been launched in 2001, after an 
extensive consultation process, she said. In that process, women had raised 
specific concerns, including the need for greater participation in First 
Nation affairs and greater transparency within government. The legislation 
had been drafted to address governance issues, including elections, redress 
mechanisms and accountability. The legislation had been introduced to 
Parliament. Matrimonial real property had not been included in the 
legislation, as a large part of the Indian Act related to land. The goal 
was to work in partnership with First Nation in terms of policy and 
legislation.

SANDRA HARDER, Manager, Gender-Based Analysis, Strategic Policy Branch, 
Citizenship and Immigration, said the live-in caregiver programme was 
designed to meet specific labour market needs. Without the programme, there 
would be no avenue for women to come to Canada, apply for landed status 
and, ultimately, citizenship. The programme was the only one within the 
temporary foreign worker category that allowed people to apply for landed 
status and citizenship in Canada. Recent regulatory changes within the 
programme responded to several concerns, including the need for specific 
contracts. Live-in caregivers were predominantly women.

The safe third country agreement was expected to be in effect by late 
spring 2003. The agreement would allow Canada to return to the United 
States people who had made asylum claims in their first safe country of 
arrival. It was a step towards sharing responsibility between Canada and 
the United States. The agreement applied to asylum seekers only at land 
border points of entry. In terms of raw numbers, more men would be affected 
by the agreement, as they tended to enter at border points, whereas women 
were more likely to make claims at airports. Those who returned to the 
United States would have access to the asylum claim process there. The 
Canadian Government was aware of debates surrounding the different ways in 
which claims were handled.

She said the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act was the result of 
seven-year consultation process. The Act was part of gender-based analysis. 
On the question of refugee women and asylum seekers, in 2000 the 
immigration and refugee board had finalized some 28,917 claims, with 138 
claims on the basis of gender-based persecution. Canada was proud of its 
guidelines on gender-based persecution. Most immigrant women came to Canada 
as spouses and dependents.

SUSAN CHRISTIE HATT, Director of Human Rights Policy, Ministry of the 
Attorney General of British Colombia, said her province had a population of 
4 million people, most of whom lived along the southern border with the 
United States. The government of the province had changed in 2001, and the 
current administration had only been in office for 18 months. As a 
consequence, many changes with respect to the status of women had not yet 
been made.

She said the province had been running a deficit for three out of the past 
four years and had been receiving equalization payments from the federal 
Government. According to the provincial Government, servicing a large debt 
and continuing to run a deficit made promoting human rights difficult over 
the long term. Decisions had to be made about where to put scarce 
resources, and the Government had tried to prioritize key areas.

Regarding the Ministry of Women's Equality, that ministry had not been 
eliminated, but amalgamated into the Ministry of Community, Aboriginal and 
Women's Services. The aim of the expanded body was to eliminate gender 
discrimination and draw up child-care programmes. The Ministry was 
preparing a report on progress in advancing the status of women, and a new 
gender analysis guide would be released in 2003. She added that the 1997 
Human Rights Act mechanism had been expensive and led to frequent backlogs. 
A new model would have a diverse membership, be independent from the 
Government and be provided with adequate resources.


Expert Comments and Questions

Ms. SCHOPP-SCHILLING, expert from Germany, asked whether there was any 
political commitment to reconsider the transferring of federal funds to the 
provinces. Had the overall income of the country risen? Also, did 
self-employed women earn enough to provide themselves with a sufficient 
pension? Was pay equity a mandatory exercise for all levels and jurisdictions?

VICTORIA POPESCU SANDRU, expert from Romania, said the report emphasized 
the importance of the full participation of women at all levels of 
decision-making and public life. However, she had seen no information on 
that and asked for clarification in that regard. Canada also wished to 
encourage political parties to set targets with respect to the inclusion of 
women, and she would like further information on that matter. She would 
also like further information about obstacles to parity in the political area.

MERIEM BELMIHOUB-ZERDANI, expert from Algeria, said Canada had vast means 
to ensure that developments leading to gender parity in the country 
occurred. Noting that only about 20 per cent of women were in the country's 
House of Commons, she asked whether any political parties in Canada were 
run by women.

FRANÇOISE GASPARD, expert from France, asked about the impact of measures 
taken to facilitate women's access to the diplomatic service.

MARIA REGINA TAVARES DA SILVA, expert from Portugal, noted that previously 
earmarked funds from the federal Government to the provinces had been cut, 
with negative consequences. She asked whether any consideration had been 
given to
re-establishing national standards to better respond to critical 
situations, where women had been affected by those cuts.

PRAMILA PATTEN, expert from Mauritius, asked what new national standards 
the Government was attaching to its transfer of funds to the provinces.

HUGUETTE BOJKPE GNACADJA, expert from Benin, asked about situations in 
provincial jurisdictions when there was a conflict with federal law. Was 
there any provincial resistance to the application of the Charter of Human 
Rights?

Ms. MORVAI, expert from Hungary, asked if the Government felt a 
responsibility towards women in aboriginal communities in terms of making 
sure that their interests were represented. How many aboriginal women's 
non-governmental organizations were included in the preparation of 
legislation? She asked for clarification on the qualifications for legal aid.

Ms. SHINN, expert from the Republic of Korea, asked why the term "visible 
minority" had been used in the report.

Ms. MANALO, expert from the Philippines, asked if gender impact analysis 
had been carried out on the legislative changes affecting work conditions 
with particular impact on women.

Ms. ZERDANI, expert from Algeria, asked if Canada intended to compensate 
indigenous population for the damage done to them throughout history.

Ms. SCHOPP-SCHILLING, expert from Germany, asked if gender-based analysis 
been applied to the Insurance Employment Act. There seemed to be a decrease 
in the number of women receiving benefits. What was the real percentage of 
fathers taking parental leave?


Country Response

Ms. IEVERS said that, with regard to social condition, the Government could 
not go further than what had been said. On changing fiscal arrangements 
between the provinces and the Federal Government, there would be no new 
changes in the short term. That was not to say that new programmes, for 
example children and housing, would not be considered. The Canadian health 
and social transfer programme ensured that the provinces and territories 
met basic criteria. The provinces and territories were required to provide 
social assistance without a minimum residency requirement.

On self-employed women, she said Canada was proud of the fact that women 
were entering the business community, creating jobs and small businesses. 
In 1996, some 700,000 women-led firms had provided jobs to about 1.7 
million people. Many of the new jobs created were in the non-standard area 
of work with no benefits. Because that category of workers was fast 
growing, a project was underway to identify that population.

On the participation of women in political life, she agreed that it was 
important that more women get involved in politics. Quotas were not a part 
of Canadian culture. The Senate was not an elected body. The Prime Minister 
appointed members to that body. Over the last eight years, there had been 
an increase in the number of women holding Senate seats. There was one 
aboriginal woman with a seat in the Senate. There were nine judges on the 
Supreme Court, of which three were women. The Chief Justice was a woman. 
The head of State -- the Governor General -- was an immigrant woman.

LOUISE HOLT, Deputy Director, Foreign Affairs and International Trade, said 
that 20 per cent of the senior management in her Department was held by 
women. There was clearly room for progress and new measures had been taken 
to increase the representation of women, including opportunities for 
spousal employment.

Ms. QUINN, Director-General of Human Resources Development Canada, said the 
people who received social assistance lost the child benefit when they 
returned to work. If the prospects for going to work were not more 
encouraging, it was difficult to make the transition. Income had increased 
for low-income workers making the transition to the labour market.

PAULINE GINGRAS, Associate Deputy Minister of the Status of Women 
Secretariat, Quebec, said the question of women in political life was high 
on the current agenda in Quebec. While some advances had been made, more 
progress was needed.

Ms. EID, Assistant Director, Department of Justice, said the issue of 
adding social condition to the Canadian Human Rights Act was under review. 
The Employment Equity Act applied to federally regulated employers. Pay 
equity was a complex issue. She agreed that the next report should describe 
the federal, provincial and territorial framework for pay equity. There 
were provisions in all jurisdictions regarding equal pay for equal work. 
The standard varied slightly, however. A task force was carrying out a 
comparative review on the topic.

Regarding the relationship between the Charter and human rights 
legislation, she said that if a woman faced discrimination by a government 
employer, she would have the option of taking a complaint to human rights 
commissioners. Not all accused received legal aid and Canada followed 
international and constitutional standards in that regard.

She said the term "visible minority" had been coined in the early 1980s, 
with the study resulting in the Employment Equity Act. It was solely used 
in the context of employment equity.

Ms. MCPHEE, Canadian Heritage, said an aboriginal women's programme at 
Canadian Heritage received funding to support groups on and off aboriginal 
reserves. Measures had been taken to ensure their full participation in the 
consultations and decision-making.

Ms. IEVERS welcomed the Committee's comments. The dialogue had been useful 
and she looked forward to bringing the content of the dialogue to 
government officials, as it would contribute to the advancement of women. 
Aboriginal issues were important to Canadian society. The many measures 
taken by the Government demonstrated the Federal Government's commitment to 
correcting discrimination.

Ms. FERIDE, Committee Chairperson, said a number of concerns and 
commendations had been raised to which the delegation had replied. Those 
issues for which additional information was required should be included in 
the next report, which had been due in 2002. The Committee had benefited 
from the flow of information and looked forward to information from all 
provinces, systematically integrated. It had been an exhausting, but 
rewarding dialogue.


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