CEDAW 28th Session: Norway called "haven for gender equality"



UNITED NATIONS
Press Release
20 January 2003
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xxxxxxxxxxNORWAY CALLED A 'HAVEN FOR GENDER EQUALITY', AS WOMEN'S 
ANTI-DISCRIMINATION COMMITTEE EXAMINES REPORTS ON COMPLIANCE WITH 
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Committee on Elimination of
Discrimination against Women
But Concerns Expressed Regarding Inequalities
In Economic Decision-Making, Violence Against Women,
Rights of Immigrant Women

Describing Norway as a "haven for gender equality" at the forefront
of gender equality issues, the expert members of the Committee on the
Elimination of Discrimination also expressed concern at the
persistence of discrimination in several areas, including
inequalities in economic decision-making, violence against women,
prostitution and the rights of immigrant women.

The 23-member expert body was considering the fifth and sixth
periodic reports of Norway on compliance with the Convention on the
Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women (CEDAW) in
two meetings today.

On the issue of violence, the expert from Mexico expressed disbelief
that in such an advanced society as Norway, there was still an
attempt to hide violence against women as "private business".
Experts also expressed concern about an increase in the number of
rape cases, which contradicted the awareness of that crime as a gross
human rights violation.

Noting also an increase of foreign women involved in prostitution,
experts asked what measures were being taken in that regard and
whether traffickers and criminal networks were being prosecuted.
Several experts asked if Norway was taking measures to support the
return of trafficked women to their countries of origin.

Other experts wondered about the apparent contradiction between the
high level of education among women and their low representation in
top management positions and on executive boards.

Introducing Norway's report, Laila Davoy, Norway's Minister for
Children and Family Affairs, said that in spite of 25 years of a
gender-equality policy, violence and sexual abuse was still a problem
in Norway.   As a destination country for trafficked persons,
trafficking in women and children, although a fairly new problem, was
a source of great concern.

Despite its progressive policies, she noted that very few women
participated in decision-making in the economic field.   In 2002,
women comprised only 6.6 per cent of the board members of public
stock companies.   The Government had taken steps to improve the
gender balance on company boards, including a resolution which
demanded that both sexes be represented by at least 40 per cent on
the executive boards of all public joint stock companies and
State-owned companies.   An initiative for a cooperation agreement
with the private sector had also been taken with the goal of reaching
40 per cent representation of each gender by the end of 2005.
She also stressed the close link between family and gender equality
policies, which sought to give both women and men equal opportunities
in combining work and parenting.   Norway had invested a great deal in
improving conditions for families with young children.   Its parental
leave schemes and day care were among the best in the world.
In recent years, focus had been on strengthening the role of fathers,
she said.   In that respect, a paternity quota had been introduced in
1993, reserving four weeks of the parental leave period for fathers.
Although men had been entitled to paternity leave since the late
1970s, few had used it.   Today, however, eight out of 10 men took
advantage of the paternity quota.   A cash benefit scheme, introduced
in 1998, entitled the family of every child between the ages of one
and three to some $420 a month, provided that the child did not
attend a subsidized day care centre.

Responding to expert's questions, Peter Wille, Deputy
Director-General of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said that while
there was no special provision on trafficking in Norway's penal code,
the Government was in the process of revising the penal code to
include provisions on trafficking.   Women were entitled to seek
asylum and protection in Norway.   Gender-based persecution was a
basis for asylum.   When a woman claimed to be a victim of a
gender-based persecution, both the interviewer and her translator had
to be women.   She was also entitled to a female lawyer.

Addressing the issue of women in executive decision-making positions,
Arni Hole, Director-General of the Ministry of Children and Family
Affairs, said the way in which executive boards were selected
affected women's representation.   The general assemblies of private
stock board companies elected who they wanted to be on their boards.
However, legislation calling for 40 per cent representation of both
sexes on executive boards would be passed by Parliament this year.
The Committee will meet again tomorrow, 21 January, to consider the
combined third and fourth periodic reports of El Salvador, as well as
its fifth report.


Background

The Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination against Women
(CEDAW) met today to consider the fifth and sixth periodic reports of
Norway (documents CEDAW/C/NOR/5 and CEDAW/C/NOR/6), submitted in
compliance with Article 18 of the Convention on All Forms of
Discrimination against Women.   Norway ratified the Convention and its
Optional Protocol in 1981 and 2002, respectively.   The sixth periodic
report, completed in May 2002, covers the period 1998 to 2001.   The
fifth periodic report covers the period 1994 to 1997.

In April 2002, the Storting (Norway's Parliament) passed an Act
amending the 1978 Gender Equality Act, the sixth periodic report
states.   Whereas the Gender Equality Act previously required public
authorities to promote gender equality in all sectors of society, the
amended Act also applies to the private sector.   According to the
provisions of the amended Act, employers and employees would not
simply avoid discrimination but actively implement concrete steps to
promote gender equality.   Public and private sector businesses are
required to report annually on the gender equality situation within
their organizations.

The amended Gender Equality Act also codifies existing practice on
the right to equal pay for work of equal value, the report states.
The amendment includes features to determine which types of work are
of equal value and provides a foundation for the use of work
evaluation as a tool for equal pay.   By clarifying the concept "equal
pay for work of equal value", legislators seek to level out wage
differences between women and men.   The Gender Equality Act also
contains provisions on increased protection during pregnancy and
leave-of-absence for childbirth; affirmative action and education;
sexual harassment; shared burden of proof; and, objective liability
for damages.

The Government ministry responsible for gender equality issues is the
Ministry of Children and Family Affairs, the report continues.   The
Gender Equality Ombudsman and the Gender Equality Board of Appeals
enforce the provisions of the Gender Equality Act.   The number of
complaints received by the Ombudsman has steadily increased since the
mid-1990s.   In 2001, the Ombudsman registered a total of 337 cases.
In 34 per cent of the cases, the Ombudsman concluded that the Act had
been violated.   Some 50 per cent of the cases reported were from
women.   The Centre for Gender Equality, a publicly financed
institution, also works to promote and mainstream equal opportunities
into all areas of society.

The report says that great changes in the population's attitudes
towards gender equality occurred between 1980 and 1990.   There is
growing concern, however, about the influence of strong sexualized
marketing and the influence of the entertainment industry, television
and the Internet.

On the issue of violence against women, the report says that the most
conspicuous gender difference lies in the percentage of women who
suffer violence in the home.   Some 42 per cent of the violence
suffered by women occurs in the home as compared with 14 per cent for
men.   Yet, according to the reports, investigations of violence in
the private sphere are, to a certain degree, under-reported.
The fifth periodic report outlines measures by the Government to
address violence against women.   Developing measures for the
prevention of violence against women and providing services, shelter
and support for survivors of gender-related violence is a high
priority for the Government.   In 1994, amendments to the Criminal
Procedure Act strengthened the position of victims of violence and
sexual offences.   Victims are entitled to free legal aid.   Other
measures include the establishment of a project called "violence
alarm" to ensure swift police response; Police Academy courses on the
investigation of sexual abuse against children; and, a centre for men
who have problems with violence and aggression called Alternative to
Violence.

Concerning women's political participation in Norway, the sixth
periodic report says that during the 1997 elections, women's
participation was higher than that of men.   While 70 per cent of
women in the 18 to 21 year old age groups voted, only 50 per cent of
men in the same age group did.   During the 1970s, women became an
important group in elected political assemblies, and the use of
quotas by political parties was an important factor.   The principle
rule for political parties is that women and men shall be represented
by at least 40 per cent.   Female representation in the Storting is
higher than in municipal councils.

The Saami Parliament, Sametinget, is the publicly elected body of the
national minority Saami people, the report says.   Established in
1989, Sametinget has a skewed gender composition with fewer women
being elected.   The Sameting has made no special arrangements to
ensure the representation of both sexes.   The fact that the
percentage of women in the Sameting is decreasing, while its position
and importance in society is increasing, poses a big question.
The other issues addressed in the report include education, the
question of pensions, paternity and as maternity entitlements,
women's health and the situation of rural women.

Introduction of report

LAILA DAVOY, Minister of Children and Family Affairs, introduced
Norway's report, saying that many steps had been taken to promote
equality in her country, both legally and by other measures.   Over
the past few decades, Norway had exerted a great deal of political
effort to become a society that promoted women's rights and gender
equality.   Although there had been debates on concrete measures,
every successive Government, politician, and more than 90 per cent of
the population saw gender equality as an essential value in society.
Norway had had the task of strengthening human rights in its domestic
law for several years, she said.   The Human Rights Act, adopted in
1999, gave the European Convention on Human Rights, and two United
Nations Conventions of 1966 with optional protocols, the force of law
in Norway.   By the end of the year, her Ministry would put forward a
concrete proposal on how to strengthen the implementation of the
Women's Convention to ensure best results.   One alternative was to
combine the methods of incorporation and transformation, making the
Convention more visible.

In Norway, there was a close link between family policy and gender
equality policy, she said.   The objective of those policies was to
give both women and men equal opportunities to combine work with
parental responsibilities.   Norway had invested a great deal in
improving conditions for families with young children.   Its parental
leave schemes and day care were among the best in the world.
Norway's family policy had in recent years had a strong focus on the
role of fathers and the importance of strengthening that role for the
good of children, while at the same time promoting equality and the
value of family life in general.   Gender-based neutral schemes for
parental leave were not enough to bring fathers home to take care of
young children to the same degree as mothers.

In 1993, a paternity quota was introduced, which meant that if both
the mother and father qualified for parental benefits, four weeks
were reserved for the father, she said.   The paternity quota had
proven an effective tool for encouraging fathers to take leave.
Though fathers had been entitled to parental leave since 1978, very
few had exercised that right.   Today, eight out of 10 men took
advantage of their right to take the father's quota of leave.   That
was important not only as a gender equality issue, but also in light
of the increasing number of broken families.   The increased
participation of fathers in childcare promoted stability in the
father-child relationship and also in families that were not living
together.

Even though Norwegian mothers topped the list internationally in
terms of participation in the labour market, freedom of choice was an
important part of Norwegian family policy, she said.   A cash benefit
scheme had been introduced in 1998, which entitled the family of
every child between the ages of one and three to approximately $420 a
month, provided that the child did not attend a subsidized day care
centre.   The purpose of the cash benefit was to give families more
time to care for their own children and freedom of choice in deciding
what form of childcare they preferred.

She said the cash benefit could also be seen as a recognition of the
importance of care for children.   It had led to a better financial
situation for families who preferred that one parent stay at home
while the child was still a toddler.   When the reform had been
introduced, the demand for day care had not been met.   Norway still
faced a shortage of places for that age group and was giving high
priority to meeting the demand by establishing more day care places
at prices that families could afford.   In 2003, budget allocations
for that purpose had increased by some 30 per cent, and statutory
amendments had been proposed to ensure that the demand was met.
In general, very few women took part in decision-making in the
economic field, especially in larger corporations and firms, she
continued.   In Norway, boardrooms were dominated by men.   In 2002,
women comprised only 6.6 per cent of the board members of public
stock companies.   Women's participation was essential for growth and
development in society.

The Government had decided to take steps to improve the gender
balance on company boards, passing a resolution last year to increase
the number of women in the executive bodies of enterprises, she
said.   The resolution included a demand that both sexes should be
represented by at least 40 per cent on the executive boards of all
public joint stock companies and in State-owned companies.   The
Government hoped to achieve the minimum percentage for State-owned
companies by the end of the year.   Also, the Government had taken the
initiative for a cooperation agreement with the private sector.   If
the desired representation of 40 per cent of each gender was reached
through such an agreement by the end of 2005, the law would not enter
into force.

While the proposal had met with resistance at first, there was
growing recognition that greater diversity in boardrooms was an asset
for companies, she said.   There had been a small increase in the
number of women being elected to executive boards in private
companies.   Private companies had three more years to fulfil the
Government's aim of 40 per cent representation of each gender.
Norway had attracted international attention as the first country in
the world to propose legislation concerning the representation of
both genders on executive boards.

On the gender pay gap, she said equal pay was a top priority of her
Government.   For women to become financially independent and gain an
equal footing in the labour market, equal pay was vital.   As in most
other countries, a high level of education or work force
participation was not automatically accompanied by equal pay.   While
the pay gap had steadily decreased, there was still a way to go.
Norway had, however, very small differences in wages compared with
most countries.

The equal-pay provision of the Gender Equality Act had been revised
to cover work of equal value across professions and occupations under
the same employer, she said.   Legislation was not the only tool to
eliminate the pay gap.   While legislation was aimed primarily at
securing individual rights, the Government wanted to focus on wage
formation in general, including how the wage gap was entrenched in
institutional arrangements, social norms, market systems and pay
policies.   Public awareness, research, network development and
international cooperation were also crucial.

Norway had managed a European project funded by the European
Commission's Community Framework Programme on gender equality,
together with partners from five other European countries, she said.
Case studies in three occupations -- teaching, engineering and the
food and fish processing industry -– had been carried out in
six countries.   The study showed that job segregation was one major
explanation for differences in the gender wage gap.   There were two
main sources for the gender pay gap, including the segregation of
women and men in different occupations, firms and positions, and wage
differences that consistently favoured male-dominated jobs.   Skills
seen as female tended to be less highly rewarded than skills
typically seen as male.

Two projects were being carried out to translate the knowledge Norway
had gained into concrete results, she said.   In 2002, a hearing
financed by the Nordic countries had been held for experts and social
partners on new methods and tools for fighting the pay gap.   Also in
2002, the Government had initiated a project to develop a
gender-neutral job-evaluation system that was easy to use.
On the issue of violence against women, she said that in spite of 25
years of a gender-equality policy, violence and sexual abuse was
still a problem.   Combating violence was one of the Government's
highest priorities, including special efforts to combat violence
against women.   The problems tended to be private and unseen.   The
Government was not sure of the progress that had been made in
preventing abuse and violence.   While it had provided some
statistics, underreporting was still common.   In September, the
Commission on Violence against Women would submit a report, giving an
overview of measures and results in the field of violence, including
legal measures, social services, women's shelters and health care.
The provisions of the penal code regulating sexual crimes had been
last amended in 2000.   Further amendments were under discussion.
She was shocked to learn that a 1999 health survey among Norwegian
women aged 20 to 49 indicated that five per cent of them had been
raped by someone other than their partner, while 10 per cent reported
having being raped by their partner.   Every year, some 2,700 women
took refuge in shelters.   Many new inhabitants of Norway did not have
the resources to get out of a violent relationship.

On the issue of trafficking in women and children, she said it was
another fairly new problem.   Norway was a country of destination for
trafficked persons.   Norway's main focus had been on trafficking in
women and children related to sexual exploitation.   National reports
on prostitution indicated a significant increase in the nubmer of
non-Norwegian nationals involved in particular during the 1990s and a
dramatic increase in the last few years.   The majority came from or
via the Russian Federation, the Baltic countries, other Eastern and
Central European countries as well as from Thailand and Latin
America.   The Government attached great importance to preventing
trafficking in human beings, criminalizing all aspects of
trafficking.   Norway was currently working on a plan of action to
prevent and combat trafficking in women and children.

Two other issues -- forced marriages and genital mutilation -- had
been on the political agenda, she added.   Norway had tried to fight
those practices through various actions.   The Government relied
heavily on dialogue with non-governmental organizations (NGOs), and
communities that represented the cultures in which those practices
had their roots.

Chairman's Comments

The Chairman noted that Norway was seen as a haven for gender
equality and that the country's equality policy had provided positive
examples for other countries.   However, much remained to be
addressed, such as inequality in economic decision-making, gender
inequality in wages and violence against women.   There was especially
a need for sensitive and proactive policies to address violence
against women in immigrant communities.

Questions and Comments

REGINA TAVARES DA SILVA, expert from Portugal, asked who was
directing gender mainstreaming in Government policy as well as
elaborating and implementing action plans.   Also, which bodies
-– public or private -- were responsible for defective economic
quotas in the economic sphere?   She also questioned why rape in the
country was rising, which contradicted the awareness of that crime as
a gross human rights violation.   With respect to an increase of
foreign women in prostitution, she asked whether traffickers and
criminal networks were being prosecuted and whether there had been
convictions.

GORAN MELANDER, expert from Sweden, asked about gender neutrality in
Norway's immigration policy and whether guidelines were being
implemented.   He also asked what measures the country had taken to
support the return of trafficked women to their countries of origin
as well as those it had taken to support the integration of immigrant
women in Norway.   In addition, he questioned how long an immigrant
woman married to a Norwegian man must live in the country to obtain
her own residence permit.

SJAMSIAH ACHMAD, expert from Indonesia, asked whether Norway's gender
equality barometer addressed progress in achieving equal opportunity
and what the results had been in terms of gender equality.   She also
asked for specific details on an optional gender training course in
the country, including the number of students enrolled and whether
teachers took the course.

NAELA GABR, expert from Egypt, noted that investigations about
violence against migrant women had not led to prosecutions and asked
why that was the case. She also asked why immigrant women had not
been more successfully integrated into the country.

CORNELIS FLINTERMAN, expert from the Netherlands, asked why Norway
had taken so long to implement the CEDAW Convention into Norwegian
law.   What was the difference between that Convention and other human
rights treaties that had been incorporated into the country's legal
system?   Also, why was there no reference in Norway's current report
to the Convention's optional protocol?   He also asked whether the
Norwegian Government believed the CEDAW Convention placed obligations
on parties in foreign and development policy.

YOLANDA FERRER GOMEZ, expert from Cuba, asked how many Norwegian
municipalities had measures directed at gender equality.   How many of
those municipalities were actually enforcing those laws in an effort
to realize the objectives of the Convention?   She also asked whether
gender equality law was structured to address migrant women and those
of ethnic minorities.   Also, was work being done to disseminate the
content of gender laws nationwide as well as to rid the country of
gender stereotypes?

Country Response

Responding to experts' questions on Norway's national machinery, ARNI
HOLE, Director-General of her country's Ministry of Children and
Family Affairs, said there was a permanent committee of junior
ministers which raised issues to top Government levels.   Her Ministry
was responsible for coordinating gender issues at the Ministerial
level and eight ministries worked with gender budgeting, including
the Ministry of Finance.   The Gender Ombud, an independent office,
was free to criticize the Government and the Parliament.   The Centre
of Gender Equality, a State-supported organism, also worked to
promote gender equality in all spheres of society, both public and
private.

Regarding women's participation in executive boards, she said
Norwegian culture and the way in which boards were appointed affected
women's representation in boardrooms.   The low level of female
representation of women in executive positions also had to do with
how women promoted themselves to be "electable".   While the number of
female professors in universities and colleges had increased, that
still remained a challenge.   Regarding the 7 March decision to
increase the number of women in the executive bodies of enterprises,
they were working with a bill proposing that each gender comprise at
least 40 per cent of the membership of public boards.   There had been
much discussion on how to find a way to pursue that goal without
being "too tough".   One of tools available was a women's data base
with qualified names.   Any one could use that data base.
She said the issue of violence and rape was a delicate issue.   Many
offended women did not want to press charges, especially when it came
to close family members.   They had set up police training, health
centres and shelters for battered women.   It was a difficult issue,
and the Government was striving to obtain accurate data.   The action
plan against female genital mutilation was doing much to raise
awareness.   The Norwegian public had been increasingly open to
discussing the issue, including immigrant groups.

Regarding the penal code, PETER WILLE, Deputy Director-General of the
Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said there was no special provision on
trafficking in the penal code.   They were in the process of revising
the penal code to take in provisions on trafficking.   There was case
law on trafficking, however.   Women were entitled to seek asylum and
protection in Norway.   Projects in the countries of origin were being
initiated to help women upon their return.

Ms. HOLE said that Norway had engaged a young female lawyer to
address the Convention and its position vis-a'-vis Norway's national
legislation.

Mr. WILLE said Norway was a traditional jurist country.   It had also
introduced a "semi-monist" system.   References to international law
in domestic legislation had been made in several acts, including the
Aliens Act.   In 1999, the Parliament had adopted the Human Rights
Law, which incorporated the European Convention on Human Rights and
the two United Nations Covenants of 1966, with optional protocols,
into Norwegian law.   Those Conventions took precedence over other
statutory law in cases of conflict.   The strengthening of other
conventions, including CEDAW, was currently underway.   One
alternative was to include those conventions into the 1999 Human
Rights Law.   On the ratification of the optional protocol to the
CEDAW Convention, the optional protocols had been incorporated into
the Human Rights Law.   He hoped that would set a precedent.

Regarding the integration of immigrant women, Ms. HOLE said that
issue had been addressed in Norway.   A system of free pre-school for
immigrant children, coupled with language training for mothers, paid
partly by the Government, was working well.   Specially-trained nurses
at health and family centres attended by immigrant parents discussed
health issues with the immigrant population.   The Government was
looking at the period between pre-school and school.   The Government
had been supporting immigrant NGOs for many years.   In last year's
budgetary debate, the Parliament had raised the issue of whether the
Government was doing enough to help immigrant women.

On the Alien's Act, Mr. WILLE said that 1998 guidelines recognized
gender-based persecution as a reason for asylum.   Statistics in 2002
showed that
55 applicants received asylum on the basis of gender based
persecution, while
23 applicants had been rejected.   When a woman claimed to be a victim
of a gender based persecution, both the interviewer and her
translator had to be women.   She was also entitled to a female
lawyer.   There were provisions in the Alien Act for family
reunification.

Ms. HOLE noted that the sixth report provided statistics on
employment rates for immigrant women.   The "Barometer", an annual
publication, measured the results at all levels and in all spheres.
Regarding mandatory school curricula on CEDAW, each college and
university decided upon their own curriculum.   Every State-owned
college and university was subject, however, to the Gender Equality
Act.   The amended Act required annual reporting.

Responding to questions on immigrant women, she said the freedom to
worship was included in Norway's Constitution.   Women from immigrant
groups were often reluctant to press charges and prosecute in cases
of violence.   There were several centres to assist women who had been
raped.   The second action plan against violence would include
training and competency building to deal with violence against
minority women.

Mr. WILLE said that Norway undertook special measures for immigrant
women upon their arrival in the country.   The Government had adopted
a plan of action on human rights in 1999, which included more than
300 measures.   On international measures, the gender mainstreaming
was a part and parcel of its development policy.

Ms. HOLE said it was difficult to ascertain the numbers of people
taking courses on gender equality within teachers colleges, but noted
that they were subject to the Gender Equality Act.   Several people
had asked for gender education in secondary schools, especially young
boys, so teachers would perhaps have to take additional courses.   She
added that something must be done about gender mainstreaming in
training colleges for pre-school teachers, since only 8 per cent of
the teachers were men.

Regarding the question about municipalities and gender equality, she
said those regions were measured by the gender barometer and subject
to the Gender Equality Act.   They had formed committees and some had
gender advisers, and must report on their actions.

Responding to the question on racism, Mr. WILLE said the Government
had adopted a plan of action to combat racism last year, following
the Durban racism conference.   The plan focused on working life,
public services, schools and education, police and prosecutors, the
internet and strengthening legal protection.   A special committee had
proposed eliminating discrimination in all areas, incorporating the
Convention against racial discrimination into Norwegian law.   The
next step was to come up with concrete proposals before the end of
2003.

Regarding the question on incorporating the CEDAW Convention into
Norwegian law, Ms. HOLE said it had been used as a tool in
illustrating gender equality.   The Government's legal office had used
it to argue that Norway could use positive discrimination to promote
women in universities, and it had also been used in marketing
children's toys as well as in a police case regarding prostitution.
Questions and Comments

HEISOO SHIN, expert from the Republic of Korea, asked whether Norway
was providing mobile violence alarms to victims, as well as whether
the alternative to violence centres were being used.   Also, was the
Government planning any attempt to change violent attitudes in men,
or considering separate legislation addressing domestic violence?
Was marital rape punishable in Norwegian law?   She also asked what
the Norwegian Government had done to tackle gender stereotyping and
whether it had carried out any research about time spent by men and
women in sharing household and child-rearing responsibilities.

FERIDE ACAR, expert from Turkey, asked what was being done about
cultural socialization limits to gender equality in Government
policy.

AIDA GONZALEZ MARTINEZ, expert from Mexico, asked why questions were
lacking with respect to gender equality about health and asylum for
migrants, and noted a lack of attention on trafficking in children.
She also expressed dismay that there was still an attempt to hide
violence against women as "private business" in such an advanced
society as Norway.   It seemed no steps were being taken to provide
education or awareness about the significance of violence within the
family.   She asked whether any problems existed in Norway regarding
violence against children and the elderly.

KRISZTINA MORVAI, expert from Hungary, said that on the incorporation
of CEDAW into domestic legislation, one approach was to say that
there was normative harmony.   CEDAW should be applied by the
judiciary.   The Convention was not law as such.   In the case of
Canada, for example, legal decisions had referred directly to CEDAW.
Normative harmony was not enough to achieve that.   Why, in the haven
of gender equality, was the word "women" not in the name of the
Ministry responsible for gender issues?   CEDAW was based on the idea
that women had rights as individuals, not because they were members
of families or mothers.

FRANCOISE GASPARD, expert from France, said that Norway was a
laboratory in that it showed how, in spite of longstanding policies,
there was resistance to equality.   She asked for more information on
the integration of gender mainstreaming into the draft budget.   What
criteria would be used to analyze a budget based on gender?   She was
also interested in the integration of policy assessment at the local
and regional levels.   It was at the grass-roots level that the fight
against discrimination was necessary.   What was the policy to
integrate gender at the local level?   Did the municipalities contain
offices to deal with gender issues?   She was surprised at the low
percentage of women in offices at the municipal level.

DUBRAVKA SIMONOVIC, expert from Croatia, commented on the difference
in reporting procedures for the two reports.   She also questioned the
application of the optional protocol in Norwegian law.   She asked
about the current situation regarding restraining orders.
Country Response

Mr. WILLE, responding to questions on the incorporation of the
Convention into domestic law, said there was normative harmony.
Incorporation brought more visibility and made it easier to invoke
the Convention before national courts.   In cases of conflict,
international covenants took precedence.   Norway had ratified the
optional protocol in March.

Responding to questions on violence against women and children, Ms.
HOLE said Norway was, more than ever, addressing men's roles.   Norway
was working on a White Paper on family politics to Parliament to be
presented in June on family life, co-habitance, fathers and mothers.
The paper would discuss several legal instruments and affirmative
action measures.   In Norway, three different male organizations were
supported by Government money, such as the ATV, the Alternative to
Violence.   The number of calls to the ATV and the Reform Centre was
growing.     On gender bias, a consumer ombudsperson dealt with
advertising and media issues.   Norway supported research and
development in programmes concerning role models.   It financed
applied research on how much time mothers and fathers spent at home
and in work.

On the name of the Ministry, she said that there had been recent
discussion on using the title "Gender Equality Minister" for the
Minister for Children and Family Affairs.   Regarding gender budgeting
and gender mainstreaming, the ministries were increasingly using
gender-based statistics.   They were working hard to develop methods,
using experts from several questions to be on the forefront of gender
budgeting.   Regarding the municipalities, every year the
434 municipalities met, and it would be interesting to see what would
happen following the requirement for annual reporting under the
revised Gender equality Act.

Marital rape was punishable, Mr. WILLE said.

On the preparation of the two reports, Ms. HOLE said the Government
adopted the reports.   NGOs could make their own shadow reports.   For
the sixth report, there had been a hearing for all the parties.
Expert's Questions

HUGUETTE BOKPE GNACADJA, expert from Benin, asked for clarification
on the primacy of international legislation over national
legislation.   What was slowing down the harmonization process?   She
was convinced that the difficulty was not technical but cultural in
nature.   In the absence of integrating the Convention into national
law, how did Norway execute the measures that were taken without a
legal underpinning?   What was stopping implementation of measures to
promote the status of women?   How could one protect women if the
legal position of prostitution remained unclear?

FUMIKO SAIGA, expert from Japan, asked whether the Norwegian
Government expected any difficulties with respect to its gender
equality initiative in discussions between trade unions and
employers.   Could shareholders express comments on the gender makeup
of executive boards?

VICTORIA POPESCU SANDRU, expert from Romania, asked whether Norway
had taken any measures to discourage women, particularly children,
from prostitution, and was educational or job counselling available
for individuals giving up prostitution?   She also questioned whether
the country had any sanctions in place against the perpetrators of
child abuse, and whether data about those individuals was available
to local communities.   In addition, she asked about special
provisions the country had in place to combat trafficking in
children, whether the country had addressed the demand side of such
trafficking and what collaboration it had with trafficking countries
of origin.

PRAMILA PATTEN, expert from Mauritius, asked about measures the
Norwegian Government envisaged to address the specific needs of
disabled women who were abused.   Was there any duty to report such
abuses under the country's penal code, and did the code provide for
harsher penalties in cases of abused disabled women?   On the judicial
system and gender-related violence, was legal assistance given to
victims of violence at the inquiry and pre-trial stages?   Was appeal
to the gender equality board of appeal free of charge?

Country Response

Mr. WILLE said that the passing of the 1999 Human Rights Law removed
all doubt regarding the Convention's applicability to Norwegian
domestic law.   The purpose of that law was to strengthen the status
of human rights in Norwegian law.

Regarding the issue of prostitution, Ms. HOLE said that general
prohibition was being openly discussed in the Government.   There was
not, however, a majority on that in the Parliament.   Measures to
address child abuse included child psychiatric centres, trauma
clinics, a national competence centre on trauma and violence and an
Internet-based health network.   The Government was also focusing
children in the financing of shelters for battered women.   A
governmental commission on violence against women would also address
those issues.

Regarding women in executive positions, she said the right to be
represented was part of the discussion on that issue.   The general
assemblies of private stock board companies elected who they wanted
to be on their boards.   It was not a question of appointment but
election.   The legislation calling for 40 per cent representation
would be passed by Parliament this year.   There were also too few
female judges in Norway.

Budgets were decided upon in Parliament, not the Ministries, she
said.   Using the Board of Complaints was free, as was legal aid in
civil cases.

On the issue of violence against women, she said the police
directorate had tested the "alarms" system last year.   She hoped to
soon have mobile telephones and alarms in all police districts.

SJAMSIAH ACHMAD, expert from Indonesia, asked to what extent the
proportional electoral system applied at the local level, and whether
the system was open or closed.   She also questioned why more women
were not serving on governmental committees, and what measures had
been taken to overcome that.

MERIEM BELMIHOUB-ZERDANI, expert from Algeria, asked what nationality
children born of immigrant women in Norway would be.   She also asked
why Norway had no law requiring political parties to work within
gender quotas, and why women were more successful in the political
than economic fields.

The Chairperson, Ms. ACAR, then asked why the proportion of women in
the Norwegian Government had declined, and whether that issue had
been addressed.

Country Response

Ms. HOLE, responding to the question on proportional elections, said
they were held on both the State and local levels, but that political
parties decided who would serve on committees.   The number of women
chosen, therefore, would likely depend on their representation in the
party.   Measures should perhaps be taken to better prepare women for
political parties.   She added that political participation was
declining among young people, both men and women.   In an effort to
reverse that process, politicians were attending schools before the
elections to remind young people of important issues.
Regarding the question about women enjoying more success in the
political than economic fields, she said an extensive research
project on "distributional power" was addressing that issue.
Regarding Norway's nationality law, he noted that foreigners could
acquire Norwegian citizenship by living in the country for seven
years or, if they married a Norwegian, in a shorter time.

Ms. HOLE, responding to the Chairman's question about fewer women in
Government, said political parties had been having less success in
recruiting or keeping young people in their parties.

Ms. MORVAI, expert from Hungary, posed several questions about
working life.   In such an advanced system of gender equality, could
the expression "paid work" be used rather than just "work"?
Differentiating between the two would be a milestone.   It was more
than a matter of political correctness -- it was a matter of raising
awareness.

SALMA KHAN, expert from Bangladesh, said that with the high education
levels and the best childcare and parental leave schemes, why were
there so few women in executive positions?   Did women face a "glass
ceiling"?   On the wage gap, a high percentage of women were in part
time work -- some 43 per cent.   Were day care facilities still
unaffordable?   Had measures been taken for women who wished to
continue in full time employment?   She also asked about women's
position in trade unions.   Did pension schemes in the private sector
discriminate against women?   What were the retirement ages for men
and women?   She also asked for information on ageing trends among
Norwegian women.

Ms. SIMONOVIC, expert from Croatia, said that Norway was trying to
implement innovative policies, such as the cash benefit scheme.   She
asked for statistics on the percentage of men and women using that
scheme.

AKUA KUENYEHIA, expert from Ghana, said the reports failed to
elaborate on the issue of HIV/AIDS.   Was that because HIV/AIDS was
not a problem in Norway?

Ms. ACHMAD, expert from Indonesia, addressed the issue of women in
the research sector.   She also asked for information on projects to
recruit women to the information and communications technologies
sectors.   To what extent were women's NGOs and the scientific
community involved in the forthcoming World Summit on information and
communication technologies?

Country response

Ms. HOLE said the cash benefit scheme was a way of recognizing that
work at home was work.   Raising the status of work at home was
important for getting fathers back into the home.   A study by seven
research institutes had studied the cash benefit scheme.   It found
that some 80 per cent of parents with one-year-olds and 70 per cent
with two year-olds used the scheme.   Use of the scheme was linked to
the number of day care centres.   The day care sector had not been
completely built up, and many places for the smallest children were
still lacking.

Increasing women's participation in top-level management positions
required not only concrete measures but also the setting of targets
and goals, she said.   Norway had one of the most segmented labour
forces in the world.   Many women chose to work part time because
Norway had good programmes for staying home.   It was a matter of
individual choice.   It was not that women did not have career
possibilities or "employment avenues".   There was no glass ceiling.
Assuming the responsibility of advanced positions was a choice that
not every woman was ready to take.   The pension age was 67 and was
gender-neutral.   Some 42 per cent of women were members of trade
unions.

GORAN MELANDER, expert from Sweden, said there must be a distinction
between forced marriages and young marriages.   There were two ways to
oppose that practice.   One was to enact legislation by which marriage
would not be permissible until the person had reached a certain age.
Could marriages entered into abroad be declared null and void in the
Norwegian context?

Ms. KUENYEHIA, expert from Ghana, asked about the distribution of
property among divorced couples.

Ms. GNACADJA, expert from Benin, asked for more information on
article 15 of the Convention.   Was there nothing discriminatory in
Norway's legislator in matters concerning choice of domicile?   Were
the grounds for divorce the same for men and women?

DUBRAVKA SIMONOVIC, expert from Croatia, asked a question about
Norway's view on presumption of fatherhood in divorce cases.   Would
that apply only in cases where paternity was contested or in all
cases of divorce?   Was there also presumption of motherhood?

KRISZTINA MORVAI, expert from Hungary, commenting on the 80 per cent
rate of rape cases dismissed in Norway, asked whether such a high
dismissal rate applied to other crimes.   What happened in the
proceedings for rape cases to warrant such a high dismissal rate?
Were there any training programmes for judges?

Country Response

Ms. HOLE, responding to the question about HIV/AIDS, said Norway had
put three action plans into effect over the past 10 years to tackle
the disease.   The most recent specifically targeted young women and
prostitutes.   Regarding another question on forced and arranged
marriages, she noted that those marriages were not prevalent in
Norway, but said her department was working to change the marriage
law and raise the competence of courts to reverse those marriages.
It was also working closely with embassies from countries where those
marriages were accepted.

Responding to another question on women judges in Norway, she said
the proportion of women judges in the country was now up to 27 per
cent.   Regarding a query on divorce and property, she said spouses
could agree on separate ownership or common property, and that it was
also important for young couples to enter into a binding property
agreement.

Regarding another question, she said that women could run their own
companies in Norway.   Regarding a question on the country's
Children's Act, she said the Act was being changed to include the
possibility of DNA testing for fathers, mothers and children, and
that the change would enter into force by Spring of this year.

Mr. WILLE, replying to a question on development aid, said Norway had
contributed 0.9 per cent of gross domestic product last year, and
aimed to raise that to 1.0 per cent by 2005.   Regarding a question on
the foreign service, he said it employed 15 per cent women as heads
of mission and planned to increase that to 25 per cent by 2005.
Recruitment was currently equal for men and women, but very few women
had applied for posts as mission heads over the past couple of years.
Addressing the question on the high rate of rape case dismissals, Ms.
HOLE noted that there was also reluctance in reporting rape, which
contributed to the low prosecution rate.

She then turned to the question of elderly women, stating that her
Minister was about to put that issue on the agenda.   The issue was
particularly vital, since women lived longer than men and also had
different health problems.   Many had difficulties with transportation
and access to health services, especially in rural areas.

Ms. SHIN, expert from the Republic of Korea, stated then that she was
dissatisfied with Norway's explanation of the high rape dismissal
rate.   The issue must be more deeply researched to determine why
women either did not report rape or withdrew charges.

Ms. HOLE said she could not adequately explain the high dismissal
rate, but said that special centres were helping rape victims and
giving them advice, trying to persuade them to report cases.
Addressing the question on information and communication technology
(ICT), Ms. HOLE said universities were given certain financial sums
for each woman or girl graduating in ICT, while secondary schools
were arranging gatherings for ICT groups.   ICT could be used in
various positive ways to help women, especially in the countryside,
in areas such as setting up businesses.

Chairperson's Summary

The Chairperson said she was still bothered by the underlying
prevalence in cultural values to enhance the caring responsibilities
of women at the expense of their equality in the public sphere.   She
looked forward to efforts that would link family with gender policy,
and enhance the position of women in decision making in the economic,
judicial and academic fields.   She was also concerned about the
disproportionate extent that women favoured part time work, which
should be perceived as a gender inequality issue.
She urged the Norwegian Government to be cautious about any
backsliding in women's political participation, and also encouraged
it to provide more information on immigrant women and compliance with
the Convention in the next report.

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