The case study does a very good job of translating the work that IPEDEHP has carried out under profoundly adverse political and social conditions. IPEDEHP does a nice job in its methodology of integrating what has been learned from the diverse experiences in the field of popular education. In particular, it links the vital experiences of the participants with their private and social lives. The privileged position that IPEDEHP gives to emotions as a factor that influences change takes advantage of the knowledge gained in psychology and therapy. The integration of emotions in the vital recognition that each person acquires of his/her context has the potential to produce the impacts that are demonstrated in the case study results. The process that Marcy has used permits us to identify that one of the key elements of the training is the internalization process that permits participants, subsequent to the training, not only to apply their new learning but to acquire a new relationship with themselves and others. In other words, the theme of human rights does not consist primarily in the rights given to me by the legal structure. Instead I am transformed as a "subject" of my rights and I am empowered with all of the implications that this notion of "subject" brings with it. This notion of "subject has many dimensions. There is the connotation of gender, social status, the specific role of the social leader vis a vis his/her age, profession, etc. It is my opinion that emphasizing the dimension of being a "subject" of rights is a basic condition for building democratic leadership. Approaching rights in this way makes it possible to arrive at more profound perceptions and insights regarding the reasons each subject is situated where he/she is within a society which is hierarchical, that legitimizes discrimination by social class, gender, race, and economic situation. Approaching rights in this way permits one to see the authoritarian dimensions of social and political relations. The move to democracy implies changes in the nature of political leadership, the mentality of this leadership, how leaders perceive themselves and society and it appears to me that IPEDEHP's work takes the community leaders in this direction. I believe that this approach is a basic condition for other kinds of learning and development. I have many questions about the persistence of the change in the community leaders and what the conditions are that maintain this change within their families and in their social relationships over time. One of these is the way that taking on a theme of human rights is based on the most fundamental needs of women and men--the need to recognize their own value and dignity, value themselves in psychological and social terms (self-esteem), recognize themselves as bearers of rights that they can demand, and demand these rights at every level. The compensation is not only having legitimately demanded one's rights but one's self-perception of being a valuable and capable person. I would like to congratulate Marcy on her work and I asked to be excused for my inability to respond in a more timely fashion. Warm regards, Elizabeth Lira
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