UNITED NATIONS Press Release xxxxxxxxxxCOMMITTEE ON RIGHTS OF CHILD REVIEWS SECOND PERIODIC REPORT OF INDONESIA xxxxxxxxxx 13 January 2004 The Committee on the Rights of the Child today held a one-day review of the second periodic report of Indonesia on how that country protects its children by hearing a Government Minister say that respecting and fulfilling the rights of children had always been a priority of the country. Sri Redjeki Sumaryoto, Minister for the Empowerment of Women, said respecting and fulfilling the rights of children had always been a priority, not only on her Government's agenda but also on the country's national development programmes. Children represented the nation's most precious, yet most vulnerable asset. In preliminary concluding remarks, Committee Expert Kamel Filali, who served as country rapporteur to the report of Indonesia, thanked the delegation for the valuable information provided to the Committee in connection to children's rights in Indonesia. Among other things, he said that it should be recognized that further improvements should be made and such efforts should continue. The real implementation of the protection of the rights of children would provide indicators to enable the Committee to evaluate the achievements made, he added. The Committee will issue its written, formal concluding observations and recommendations on the report of Indonesia towards the end of its three-week session, which will close on 31 January. Also representing Indonesia were Eddi Hariyadhi, Ambassador and Deputy Permanent Representative of Indonesia to the United Nations Office at Geneva; Moeryono Aladin, Member of the Indonesian Parliament; Nafsiah Mboi, Senior Advisor; Andarus Darahim, Expert Staff on Inter-Agency Relations, Ministry for the Empowerment of Women; Rakhmat Sentika, Deputy Minister for Child Protection and Welfare; Jusuf Supiandi, Deputy Minister for Gender Equality; Asrul Azwar, Director-General for Community Health Development, Department of Health; Indrajati Sidi, Director-General for Primary and Secondary Education; Maswita Djaya, Deputy III of the Coordinating Minister for Social Welfare; and Pudji Hastuti, Director-General for Social Service and Rehabilitation, Department for Social Affairs. Also, Gusti Agung Wesaka Puja, Director for Human Rights, Humanitarian, Social and Cultural Affairs, Department of Foreign Affairs; Sri Pardina Pudiastuti, Assistant Deputy, and Murniarti Soekisno, Assistant Deputy, Ministry for the Empowerment of Women; Sri Hermiyanti, Director for Family Health, Department of Health; Byarlina Gyamirti, Assistant Deputy for Child Welfare; Yohandarwati, Director for Demography, Social Welfare and Empowerment of Women, National Development Planning Agency; Nina Sardjunani, Director for Religion and Education Affairs; Djumantoro Purbo, Director for Human Rights Information System, Department of Justice and Human Rights; Nur Rasyid, Head of Centre for Analyses on the Protection of Vulnerable Groups, Human Rights Research and Development Board; Heru P. Kasidi, Head of Bureau for Planning and Foreign Cooperation; Sudaryanto, Director for Women and Child Norms, Department of Labour and Transmigration; and Makmur Sanusi, Nahar and Andualusi Aristapuri, members of the delegation. As one of the 192 States parties to the Convention, Indonesia must provide periodic reports on its efforts to implement the provisions of the treaty. The Indonesian delegation was on hand throughout the day to present the report and to answer questions raised by Committee Experts. When the Committee reconvenes at 10 a.m. on Wednesday, 14 January, it is scheduled to review the initial report of Guyana (CRC/C/8/Add.47). Second Periodic Report of Indonesia The second periodic report of Indonesia (CRC/C/65/Add.23) provides details on the implementation of the provisions of the Convention on an article-by-article basis. It also highlights administrative, legislative and judicial measures undertaken by the State party in order to implement the treaty. It says that the Government attaches great importance to the rights of the child and has tried to implement all possible and necessary measures to ensure that those rights are respected. The report says that the Government is currently finalizing the National Programme for Children through the year 2015. The Programme addresses such key issues as the promotion of a healthy life, equal and quality education for all, as well as combating HIV/AIDS and protecting children. Indonesia is actively following up on commitments made in international and regional fora with regard to combating the commercial sexual exploitation of children. On the issue of discrimination, the report says that with the new law enacted in 1999, children and parents belonging to religious groups will no longer be subjected to discriminatory practices. They will have equal access to basic education and health care services and will be allowed to enjoy their own culture, practice their own religion and use their own language. Introductory Statement SRI REDJEKI SUMARYOTO, Minister for the Empowerment of Women of Indonesia, said respecting and fulfilling the rights of children has always been a priority not only on her Government's agenda but also on the country's national development programmes. Children represented the nation's most precious, yet most vulnerable asset. Following the 1990 World Summit for Children and its Plan of Action, Indonesia had undertaken policy adjustments towards reaching the goals set by the Summit. Those comprehensive measures had resulted in marked progress in reaching the targets set for the year 2000, particularly in the field of promoting child health, women's education and family welfare. Ms. Sumaryoto said that the Government's performance with regard to implementing the Convention had suffered a severe setback in 1997 as a result of the economic crisis besetting the country. The sharp decline in the country's national capacity in general had undermined all of the achievements made prior to the crisis, especially those accomplished in child welfare. That bleak picture had unfortunately been accompanied by the increasing rates of infant and children under five mortality and malnutrition, and by growing numbers of school dropouts, street children and child labourers. That same period had also been characterized by a reform process towards a more democratic society, and had led to some notable progress with regard to the rights of the child, particularly in the field of civil and political rights. The second periodic report recorded the important developments that had taken place in the country since July 2000 with regard to the national implementation of the Convention, the Minister said. The decline recorded in the first period had now been reversed and Indonesia's economy was gradually recovering and the national capacity in general had been significantly strengthened. A strategic approach was developed to make children's rights and their protection a reality and to integrate them into political decision-making at all levels. Along with the advances made in terms of civil and political rights, children were now also able to participate in the decision-making process on matters relating to their interests. Ms. Sumaryoto said that the implementation of the law on regional autonomy was another important development. Almost all the powers of the central Government, with the exception of matters such as foreign relations, defence and security, were delegated to regional governments at provincial and district levels. Those developments had resulted in regional governments sharing part of the State's responsibility to implement aspects of the Convention. Discussion KAMEL FILALI, the Committee Expert who served as country rapporteur to the report of Indonesia, thanked the Government of Indonesia for the considerable attention provided to children in the country. The progress made towards the protection of Indonesia's children remained confronted with difficulties in its efforts to fully implement the provisions of the Convention. He suggested that Indonesia's legislation concerning child rights should be improved; decentralization of the efforts should be continued; and the Government should encourage the involvement of non-governmental organizations working on children's protection. Mr. Filali asked about the position of the delegation on the reservations made by the State party, which had hindered the application of some of the provisions of the Convention. He stressed that the Committee would like to see that other conventions related to the protection and promotion of the rights of the child were ratified and implemented by Indonesia. He encouraged the practical implementation of ambitious legislative measures adopted by the State party to foster the rights of children. Another Expert said that since the Convention was adopted by a presidential decree, its implementation had been delayed in some instances. Its conversion into an act might be much better. Referring to the Commission of the Rights of Children, an Expert asked about its real function at the level of provinces. Were there plans of action at the district and provincial levels? What kinds of indictors were used to evaluate the implementation of the Convention? Did children participate in decision-making processes in the family and schools? On the training of professionals, another Expert asked whether all those coming in contact with children, such as the police, judges and other law enforcing agents, were given training on the promotion and protection of children. What measures were taken to prevent early marriages? Traditionally, girls got married at the age of 16. What measures were taken to deal with HIV/AIDS, suicides among the youth, and drug abuse? The age for sexual consent was 12 years, another Expert said, adding that the age was too low and should be raised. Eight years was the minimum age for criminal responsibility, which was also too low. The State party should increase both those age groups. Another Expert said that there were a number of institutions established in relation to the Paris Principles, such as the Human Rights Commission and the Commission for the Rights of Children. How independent were those institutions in their functions and decisions? Responding, the Indonesian delegation said that more than 34 per cent of married women got married before the age of 15, while the rate of men marrying young was low. Child participation in decision-making concerning them had been made a priority in the effort to protect and promote children's rights, the delegation said. With the motto of "I am an Indonesian Child", the Government had launched a programme to raise awareness among the population. Following the ratification of the Convention, several legislative provisions had been reviewed to make them compatible with the treaty, the delegation said. A number of laws had also been adopted in order to facilitate the implementation of the treaty and to enhance the protection and promotion of the rights enshrined in it. Asked about Indonesia's reservations on some of the provisions of the Convention and whether it intended to withdraw them, the delegation said that with the ongoing amendments of the Constitution and other subsequent legislation, the Government was envisaging to withdraw its reservations on the Convention. The reform process on decentralization had transferred power to the provincial and district levels, including the implementation of the provisions of the Convention, the delegation said. Although the problem of collecting aggregated national data on children still persisted, progress was being made with the new decentralized power sharing system. Reacting, an Expert said that only the central Government was accountable for the full implementation of the provisions of the Convention. The State party should not therefore leave all the responsibility to the provinces and districts. Indonesia was changing from being a centralized to a decentralized nation, the delegation said. The changes also included the educational system and a change was being made in the curriculum. The national budget allocated to education had been 20 per cent of the country's budget. However, this target had not been fully implemented; and the Government was making all efforts to increase the quality of education. Some districts and provinces were putting more money on education and on activities related to children's rights. Assistance channelled through international cooperation was also contributing to the expansion of education. Committee Experts continued to raise further questions. An Expert asked about the status of children born out of wedlock; the payment of alimony to a parent; the situation of adoption under the Islamic "kafala" system; and who was awarded custody in the event of divorce under Islamic law. Another Expert recalled that the Government had introduced a series of laws with regard to the freedom of thought but there were no indications in the report on how those laws had been implemented in practice. The delegation was asked to provide information on the issue. An Expert asked how Indonesian nationality was obtained by foreign children born and living in the country. Was there a law prohibiting corporal punishment in schools? How did the authorities handle incidents of bullying and violence in schools? On child sexual abuse, another Expert said that the Government had affirmed that such incidents occurred outside the child's home by perpetrators who were not related to the family of the child. What measures were taken to avert such situations? What steps were undertaken to prevent disability and the spread of communicable diseases? What progress had been made in extending breastfeeding? Primary education was not free as it should be, another Expert commented. The payments were made in terms of uniforms, books and other materials. The rate of school dropouts was very high in the country; what efforts were made to correct the situation. How did the Government recruit teachers? How high was the percentage of youth unemployment in the country. Several Experts encouraged the Government of Indonesia to ratify the 1993 Hague Convention on Protection and International Cooperation in Matters of Child Adoption. In response, the delegation said that the country's educational system was undergoing a reform, which included the redrafting of the curriculum and changing the manner in which teachers were trained. Although the nine years of primary schooling were compulsory, financial implications in the system encouraged dropouts. However, the Government was granting scholarships to children who were in need to encourage them to continue with their studies. Among secondary school students, only 20 per cent went on to university while the rest worked, some of them after receiving vocational training. The Islamic religious educational system -- madrassas -- accounted for 20 per cent of education in Indonesia, the delegation said. The madrassas were mainly subsidized by the private sector. The Government provided teachers and materials for Government madrassas, which were directly supported by the State. The Government was promoting a new policy on health, the delegation said. A programme had also been launched to support health centres so that they provided basic health care facilities. The immunization programme had also been encouraged with the community being called on to participate in the process. In remote areas, sub-health centres had been expanded with a community midwife assigned to each centre. Since Indonesia was made up of more 70,000 islands, more efforts had been made to serve all people living in the territories. The Indonesian Government was supporting the World Health Organization (WHO) standard of a six-month breastfeeding period and efforts were being made to spread this among all mothers, the delegation said. The State was also making additional milk supplies easily available to mothers. The pattern of HIV/AIDS had shifted from the previous situation where it affected sexually active individuals, the delegation said. The use of condoms was now frequent and people received awareness raising lessons, organized by the State and non-governmental organizations. The number of victims infected by HIV/AIDS was estimated at 130,000. Among the 1.5 million persons with disabilities, 20 per cent were children, according to data obtained in 2001, the delegation said. The number of children with disabilities could increase as the population grew. The Government had made efforts to strengthen rehabilitation centres for such children. Other measures were also taken to integrate children with disabilities into the society by providing them with vocational training. The capacity of the community was also being strengthened to take care of children with disabilities in their own communities. The Government issued birth certificates when it was requested to through the registrar officers, the delegation said. However, only 25.7 per cent of children below five years of age possessed birth certificates. By 2015, all Indonesian children under five years old should be in a possession of birth certificates. Last year, 130 cases of trafficking in persons and child abuse had been brought before the courts, the delegation said, and the perpetrators of the acts had been punished. The Government was engaged in fighting the phenomenon of trafficking in women and children for sexual exploitation. The victims of such exploitation were supported by the State and special programmes were launched to rehabilitate them. International organizations were actively involved in the Government's efforts to combat acts of trafficking in persons. On child adoption, the delegation said that Indonesia applied three systems of adoption: customary, Islamic and positive law adoption. Indonesians and international adopting parents were eligible for the three forms of adoption. However, every effort was made for the child to be brought up by his or her relations or with the blood parents. Indonesian courts decided on adoptions before a child was handed over to the adopting parents. With regard to inter-country adoptions, the aspiring parents should receive the approval of the courts, after staying for three months in the country, in order to protect the best interest of the child. The adoption system gave priority to Indonesian parents of the same religion; and adoption by foreigners was considered as a last resort. Violence in schools had diminished, thanks to the concerted efforts of teachers, the police and parents, the delegation said. Fighting among students had been a common phenomenon in the past. A "Student Conduct Regulation" had been introduced within the school system to strengthen students' discipline. The Committee Experts continued to raise further questions. Among other things, an Expert said that the number of juvenile courts in Indonesia was decreasing. With regard to judicial errors, what remedies were available in the event that such mistakes were committed? What measures were taken to accommodate children in prisons, who were believed to be living in bad conditions? Another Expert asked if children were kept separately from adults during their incarceration. The delegation was asked about the situation of children in prisons, which she suspected, based on reports, was pretty bad. She also asked about the fate of refugee children in the country. An Expert asked about the measures undertaken concerning the 3,000 child prisoners cohabiting in adult cells. The Expert also asked if the State party was envisaging ratifying the two Optional Protocols to the Convention, which it had already signed. Responding, the delegation said that according to the law on child criminal responsibilities, a child was only brought before the juvenile courts at the age of eight, but could not be punished for the offence he or she had committed. The child could be returned to his or her parents for rehabilitation purposes. The Government was making further efforts to harmonize all the age groups to bring them in line with the provisions of the Convention. Asked about the involvement of children in the armed conflict in Aceh, the delegation said that the Government had imposed martial law there in 2003 in order to provide integrated assistance to the population in Aceh. Measures accompanying the law included rehabilitation programmes for displaced persons and children affected by the armed conflict. More than 5,000 children were provided with education with the help of the Government. In some areas, since rebels had burnt down schools, the Government had been obliged to build temporary school classes. The Government of Indonesia had never used children to fight against the rebels in Aceh, the delegation said. To the contrary, the rebels were utilizing children in their ranks to combat Government soldiers. The two Optional Protocols to the Convention could be ratified by 2005 or 2006, the delegation said. The legislators were preparing the legal ground for their ratification. Preliminary Concluding Remarks KAMEL FILALI, the Committee Expert who served as country rapporteur to the report of Indonesia, thanked the delegation for the valuable information provided to the Committee in connection with children's rights in Indonesia. It should be recognized that further improvements should be made and such efforts should continue. The real implementation of the protection of the rights of children would provide indicators to enable the Committee to evaluate the achievements made. The Committee recognized the problem faced by the State party in collecting disaggregated data on children. Further training of officials in all fields related to children's rights was essential. Concluding Remarks by Delegation EDDI S. HARIYADHI, Ambassador and Deputy Permanent Representative of Indonesia to the United Nations Office at Geneva, said his Government wished to see the dialogue with the Committee continue on a regular basis. The delegation had come before the Committee for guidance and assistance on how it could further implement the provisions of the Convention. The Committee's recommendations would be helpful to the Government in its actions in favour of children's rights. He expressed thanks for the assistance provided by the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF). He also invited the Committee members to go to Indonesia and see the reality with their own eyes. -- The "child-rights" mailing list provides information on issues related to children's human rights. Archives of "child-rights" messages, as well as instructions on how to (un)subscribe to the list, can be found at: http://www.hrea.org/lists/child-rights/markup/maillist.php
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